Just a thought, but music boys didn't actually present the Gospel. Too many of our current generation (and my generation) think that Jesus was a cool guy...but not someone to believe in.

I understand your point about how confrontational the other two were being, but please don't assume that because people were clapping politely and being impressed withe musicians that the actual gospel was being presented. In my mind, both were incorrect as gospel presentations.

I was once asked, when I was explaining the missional life that I live in order to reach those beyond the reach of the church, "When do you inject the gospel into them?".

I replied, "what do you mean...'inject the gospel'?"

"You know, sit down, open your bible."

Wow! My response...."everyday hour of every day." As the spirit of God lives in me, I try to "inject" the gospel as a little Jesus to everyone I meet. Sometimes I use the printed word, sometimes I don't even talk about Jesus. As a Christ follower, I trust in the Spirit of God in my relationships every moment more than I trust in my own ability to walk them through any made up presentation that I have put together.

I suppose since the street musicians didn't stop playing and share the four spiritual laws, rather than simply singing about how they "put their trust on the Lord" doesn't count.

I think there is a fundamental flaw in the language that is so commonly used. We use the word "presentation" to define how we should show Jesus. As if it's some sort of task, or duty, or a belabored point we need to make in order to feel better about our own relationship with God. As if we have some sort of sales quota to fill. Frankly bullhorn and bible boy are taking the easy way out. It is much harder to love people.

If we want to "present" the Gospel (which is God's redemptive love through his Son's death) then it seems we would need to engage people in conversation from a position of powerlessness and presence in their lives not hiding behind the angry bullhorn or bible, spewing an arrogant unloving God that we paste over the top of, and cover the true Gospel message of Jesus' love for us.

I agree with you. Bullhorn and bible guy were no where near reflecting "the Gospel". But I would have to disagree and say that the street musicians seemed to reflect a more true inviting "presentation" of Jesus.

At least I would feel drawn to them verses the other two. And ultimately isn't that what Jesus did, draw people to him with his love.

David...I added your post to our site. God Bless. winthecity.org

From Acts 16: … thrust them into the inner prison, and made their feet fast in the stocks. And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them. And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed. And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled. But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

Paul and Silas sang. Paul and Silas were humble, not pursuing escape. Not until asked did they give The Answer, and even then they did not open their bibles.

Were Paul and Silas a good example for us to follow, or were they wrong?

I don't disagree with the main point of your article, but you might be a little bit idealistic about what those young people at Lollapalooza were there for. I attended the festival too, and I wouldn't say most people were there for "beauty, friendship, and community". The music scene is overrun by narcissim, nihilism, addiction, and offerings to the god of greed and capitalism. I met plenty of frat boys there eager to prey on young women, plenty of gangbangers ready to settle scores, and lots of young rich white people racking up more debt as they try and to satisfy the existential hole inside of them.

Engaging the culture with kindness and generosity is integral to our mission, but we shouldn't be afraid to name the sickness our culture suffers from.

Great article, Dave. I thought you made some great points. I am constantly frustrated by the type of "witness" you describe. Seems so very counterproductive and very much out of line with what I perceive to be the heart of the Gospel. I find myself asking if God can work through this kind of witness. (I believe He can . . . In my finite mind I wonder how.) Then I am reminded what an imperfect witness I am. Trust comes into play in a big way . . .

Felt compelled to post on my own blog after reading this article. I'd love for you to stop by if you feel compelled.

The real question here is "Do you believe in the existence of Hell?" If the answer is no, then confrontation is unnecessary and divisive. If the answer is "yes" then you must accept that people should be confronted with the truth! You may not agree with the way in which these men went about addressing the subject, but my greater fear is that modern christianity has failed to address it at all. We have shifted between extremes: from Jonathan Edwards' "Sinners in the Hands of An Angry God" to Joel Osteen's "It's Your Time." Neither extreme is healthy!

Gee David - wonder how you would have responded if you were around when John the Baptism was belting his words as he "prepared the way of the Lord" - would you have been tempted to punch him in the head also?

Matt K's comment probably described the festival's undercurrent in a better way than you did. If Matt's description is true, maybe these people should be confronted and challenged to meet a Jesus who is humble and loving, but also burns with righteous anger and weeps at the sad state of mankind.

I may or may not agree with Bullhorn Man and Bible Man's approach - but to ridicule them on such a public forum is simply pathetic.

Sometimes God put Bullhorn Man and Bible Man there to save, not only the non-believers, but as well as the believers, as depicted in the following story - a made-up one by the way - but can actually happen to anyone.

Start of story. There wasn't much that could have distracted me on the way to the train station on a recent Saturday evening. After two days at an outdoor music festival-in the rain one day and under the blazing sun the next-I wanted nothing more than to return to our apartment for...

...that beautiful pewter salt and pepper set and a little creamer that would fit neatly in my suitcase. I could take that home and this place would never miss it...

Before I'd walked even a block from the festival, I bumped into a small crowd whose attention was fixed on two men speaking loudly to the bedraggled onlookers. One held a handmade sign that read - I kid you not - "TURN OR BURN!" He spoke into a bullhorn, warning the young people of God's coming judgment and listing in vivid detail the sins that would lead them to an eternity burning in hell. The other man held an open Bible and vigorously debated anyone who disagreed with his companion's portrayal of God.

Like a bolt from the blue, I could not believe my senses why the presence of those two men made me feel unclean. I thought, "I can't do that." I mean - stealing salt and pepper set. End of story.

During moments of weakness, the temptations for Christians to sin could range from a harmless stealing of salt and pepper set to a diabolical lust for the flesh. It is comforting to know that God always provide a way out for His people (1 Corinthians 10:13). In that "music scene overran by narcissism, nihilism, addiction, and offerings to the god of greed and capitalism," Bullhorn Man and Bible Man might have served such divine purpose.

Jesus? Not confrontational? What? Jesus deliberately healed on the Sabbath - an affront to any observant Jew. Jesus touched the ritually unclean. Jesus demanded that people eat his flesh and drink his blood - this language was anathema to the people hearing it. Jesus took a whip of cords and violently threw people out of the Temple. Finally, he committed blasphemy in front of Caiaphas and all the Sanhedrin.

These street preachers are preaching repentance - what did John the Baptist have to say about that? Did he sing the Pharisees and Sadducees a nice little ditty about turning to God, or did he call them a brood of vipers? Once he became an Apostle, did Peter sing cutsie little songs, or did he confront unbelievers and fakers like Ananias and his wife so badly they just laid down and died?

There is plenty of controversial, confrontational, countercultural language and action in the Gospels. Some people may be enticed by a song, but others may need to be provoked into making a change. I would not sell the Spirit so short that there is only one way of proclaiming the Gospel. Maybe it's not your cup of tea, but these two street preachers did get people to listen, think and debate. All the musicians got were smiles and applause. I cannot believe this is what Jesus was ultimately after.

Anil - great examples of how Jesus was confrontational toward the self-righteous, hypocritical religious leaders. But your comments would only apply to this thread if bullhorn man and bible boy were standing outside a "come and see how we build our business (I mean church)" conference that was being hosted by marquee celebrity pastors with vendors set up in the lobby peddling their latest goods to wanna be marquee pastors on how to "grow" their self esteem.

I don't know where in scripture Jesus "confronted" sinners in such a harsh way as these street "evangelist". To your point, he touched, healed, loved them. Never yelled through a bullhorn at them! Oh, and he only quoted scripture (Torah) to the same hypocrites he confronted. Never to the sinners.

No matter how you slice it, or try to give credit to Spirit, this technique to showing Jesus is the furthest from any approach that should be condoned by Christians.

Turn or burn is NOT the Gospel. This is good news?

We can debate what exactly the Gospel is (like iMonk has going) from now until forever, but I know what it isn't when I see it.

How many people here would choose to have either of these two men as their father? As their preacher?

A question to those advocating for the "street preacher"style of Gospel witness: Is this reflective of your own practice? If so, what has your experience been?

This is a sincere question. I've known one man who came to faith through the ministry of a street preacher (though I don't think he was the bullhorn-toting variety) and many non-Christians who seem to have been further alienated from Christ by this portrayal of Christianity.

The question of confrontational witness vs. gracious witness is something I have wrestled with. Often Jesus was confrontational with the religious elite (most of us reading this blog) and gracious with honest to goodness sinners (the woman at the well). It is all too easy for us to get this backwards - giving grace to ourselves and confronting the hurting and the needy.

If the bullhorn and bible guys actually won someone to the Lord and that soul was truly saved, was it worth it?

Who are we to criticize another's servant? I may not agree with the approach, or would be too embarrassed to do the same. Does that make it wrong?

I've seen too many 'Christ followers' (their term) willing to berate, belittle and mock fellow Christians approaches to faith and service. And I can't help but think, isn't mocking one of the attributes of an apostate?

well said, David. thank you! Excellent and provocative point about what kind of witness is your church culture producing.

Brian McLaren reminds us that "loud and sweaty" preaching is effective with people who have turned away from their faith. But probably less effective with people who have never had faith in a post-Christian culture. Getting mad at sinners for acting sinful is silly and counterproductive. Jesus got mad at the so called "righteousness" but consistently approached others outside the faith with gentleness, graciousness, and compassion. Perhaps we can attract more flies with honey than vinegar?!

I read the article a second time and did not observe David Swanson calling Bullhorn and Bible man "angry". He merely describes them as I would interpret - boldly proclaiming the holiness of God, the sinfulness of man and the eternal results. Later David Swanson describes his own emotions: "...quenching my desire to punch Bullhorn Man and Bible Man"..."I angrily questioned why these men did what they did."

Who is angry here? Not Bullhorn or Bible man.

Is talking about only the love of God and Jesus meekness the ONLY way to present the gospel? No.... Don't be so narrow Dave.

"...I’d watched these young people pursue beauty and friendship and community..."

Such a healthy, clean, uplifting environment. These good people might be God's children already. They just need to be convinced to add a small weekly dose of positive Bible talk to their current worldview. A few tokens in the offering plate will cover the cost of the institutionalized Bible talk.

Is there a thread in this article that suggests that there is nothing offensive about the gospel to those who are addicted to the world system? I sense one.

Is it bad to speak the gospel in ways that might produce a rejection response? I don't think so.

Are there many strong believers today who at many times before coming to faith scoffed, spat, and angrily rejected EVERY kind of reference to the God of the Bible?
Yes... give God time.

That Isaiah, what a grump!

"your comments would only apply to this thread if bullhorn man and bible boy were standing outside a "come and see how we build our business (I mean church)" conference that was being hosted by marquee celebrity pastors with vendors set up in the lobby peddling their latest goods to wanna be marquee pastors on how to "grow" their self esteem."

I see - so now the market-oriented pastors are getting it wrong, too? Sorry, I didn't realize there was only one authorized, "authentic" approach to preaching the Gospel. What do we make, then, of Paul trying to make Christ accessible to Greek philosophers by debating them in the street? Was he not offending their religious sensibilities by publicly preaching what many called nonsense? Paul preached, some heard, some scoffed.

Again, these bullhorn guys by your own description got some people to listen, think, feel and debate. People who get turned off by their style obviously need to hear the message a different way.

Anil....sigh....yes the "market-oriented" pastors are getting it wrong, that's my point to your point.

Jesus confronted the "market-oriented" religious leaders, not those that needed or knew nothing about him....sigh again....

What do I make of Paul? A man. A sinner. Failing. Suceeding despite himself. God his father loving him, despite his short-comings and misrepresentations. I hold Paul up no higher than any other man.

As far as one "authentic" way to "present" (there's that corporate word again) the gospel. When I read Matthew through John and pay attention to the guy named Jesus, I would tend to think that way. The problem is we can never do what he did, obviously, so we all tend to make this about ourselves now don't we. I mean, "DON"T WE!" - I used my bullhorn that time ;-)

Keeping digging you're getting closer.

BTW - love that label, "market-oriented" It makes your question that much more preposterous...

Great discussion. I have never really known or seen a Bullhorn guy in 30 years of ministry, though the caricature is certainly prominent today.

As a street preacher (part time) in Dublin I find the article interesting. We must walk close to Jesus and be led by the Holy Spirit in all our actions. Some days it involves kneeling on the street with a broken repentant sinner and another day it involves speaking of sin hell and judgement...but always about the cross. Personally I like to talk about the wrath of the Father, brought about by our rebellion, poured out on Jesus. I love my children but if I saw them blindly walking to destruction I might raise my voice. A fireman doesn't wake children softly does he? In conclusion...there are no rules! (except love).

Interesting.
A long time ago I worked at the Shoreline Amphitheater to make a few extra dollars to go elk hunting, and as the time of the season was coming close I figured I had worked enough to have the money to get both the elk tag, and the out of state hunting license. However, I was thinking, "you know, a few extra dollars would be really good." So I kept quiet and kept working.
Till Lollapalooza.
The last concert I worked for was Lollapalooza and I will state this for the record having been there at the concert all day in a eight and half hour shift…and that is “a great opportunity to see some new bands and observe Chicago’s diverse youth culture.” is the same as me saying I went to a pagan fertility festival just to see what the new dance moves are.
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You see, I saw things at Lollapalooza I, as a profess follower of Christ, a Christian, should not have seen.
So I quit.
I would not work the rest of the weekend, nor would I be around for the other aspects of the "after" show festivities.
I made that decision as soon as I walked back inside my station after my lunch break.

I think Mark K. sum’s it up rather nicely, and tidily too, with the reason the whole Lollapalooza exists at all which is that people are there “to satisfy the existential hole inside of them.”

Those two guys with the bull horn, I don’t know what they said, but apparently it had an effect which is to say that they did what Y’shua does everyday.
Y’shua was, and is an affront to our carnal sensibilities.
Remember, the adulteress?
He said, “Neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more.”
Note the break down of that passage:
Yes, you sinned.
I’m not condemning you.
Stop it.
Now go, and don't do it again.
You will note that he did not ask her to be his follower.
He did not say to her, “come, follow me.”
None of that.
He basically identified her situation, gave a flat out evaluation, and told her to stop.
That was all he did.
Calling sin out is not condemning people.
If people feel condemned, that is their own conscience at work, not the speakers.

The problem in our culture is we are too permissible with our desires, and so we allow our passions free rein.
Then when horrors of horrors all the consequences of our ungoverned desires cash in we whine and complain about the unfairness of life.
Boo-freaking-hoo!
Perhaps, the American Church we've all built is being revealed as the hollow construct we feared it has becom.
A shadow of it's former self.
A doppleganger that has pretended far to long to be something it isn't, and now that people are needing something, anything to give them hope they find the American church is little more than a shallow cul-de-sac of cultural similiarity.
These two guys give me hope that perhaps the church in America isn't completely dead...yet.

Based on what your saying, i did not witness them. But if both parties they were giving all their glory to the Lord, in effect so that others would hear, and Christ's word be heard, then that is just the ways the lord at work. What you saw was like the differences one might have seen between john the baptist preaching, and Paul and Silas praying in prison.

You heard the word and thought of the Lord, and being concerned about it, the Lord comforted you with the songs of praise.

And so you wrote about it, and here we are talking about the Lord, glory be to him forever!

Based on what your saying, i did not witness them. But if both parties they were giving all their glory to the Lord, in effect so that others would hear, and Christ's word be heard, then that is just the ways the lord at work. What you saw was like the differences one might have seen between john the baptist preaching, and Paul and Silas praying in prison.

You heard the word and thought of the Lord, and being concerned about it, the Lord comforted you with the songs of praise.

And so you wrote about it, and here we are talking about the Lord, glory be to him forever!

Street can be good. Street preaching can be bad.

'Turn or burn' may not be the whole Gospel- and it's not generally helpful to use those exact terms- but it's part of the Gospel. If they were only holding the sign, then yeah, they're not good. But I'm sure they had more to say.

If all the musicians sang was 'In the Lord I put my trust' they have also failed to fully communicate the Gospel. Lots of non-Christians and cultists can affirm this. It's not that it's bad- and they certainly were placing themselves on firm ground to then speak to the crowd or perhaps people individually- but the singing itself was not a Gospel presentation. Of course, Christian rappers have emphatically proven that musical Gospel presentations are possible.

One final comment: Edward's Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God is a FANTASTIC sermon that gets caricatured all the time. Remember, he preached it to his own congregation and not 'open air.' Not only that, it was much more grace focused than you might imagine. Not a big deal here; I just saw someone saying it was dangerous and had to defend.

In Acts 16 Paul did not give the gospel until he was asked by the Jailer "What must I do to be saved? But in Athens(Acts 17), Paul's spirit was provoked by all the idolatry that he found in the city.

Paul preached in the market place, and the Areopagus. He preached that God is the creator, God is holy and totally separate from all others, and He doesn't need anything from humans. Paul preached in the open air, that Jesus will judge everyone. He also preached the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus.

After his sermon, some Made fun of him, some said "we will listen to this again later", but SOME believed.

Paul preached the gospel wherever he went and in every circumstance that he had an opportunity.

We should all do the same as our market places are our homes,jobs, and schools.

I am also saddened by your story David. I am sad because you fail to see the concern those street preachers had for the souls of those they were preaching to. You said you spent 2 days at that festival. How many did you witness to? They were willing to bear reproach for the Gospels sake. Did you just blend in with the lost at the festival or did you go with the intent to lead a lost soul to the Saviour?
You said you are a Pastor, what do you teach your people? The only hope these people have is in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
I applaud the courage of those preachers.

Interesting post, much to say, but I'll limit my response to a memory of my time on a big midwest campus. We had a fire and brimstone preacher who periodically frequented the open green on campus, probably similar to Bullhorn Man. His preaching definitely drew student interest and stirred up many on campus to talk about spiritual things, providing opportunity for many of us to explain the gospel more fully. He was abrasive, but I really don't recall this man saying anything untrue - people are sinners, they are going to hell unless they trust in Jesus, we are not OK as we are...

The question to the author is this: Did you take time to witness to the youth, offering salvation in Jesus' name?

A pastor on Saturday night at Lollapalooza. The question is who was in error, you or the real preachers.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
Which are you preacher or teacher???

I don't get it Jesus doesn't want us scaring people into believing in him he is kind and right and doesn't want us to be scared of him. We must remember one name we give Jesus IS "The Prince Of Peace".

HELL is pretty scary, right?
Wouldn't you like to see someone AVOID Hell?
David, all the rest here, and those from Christianity Astr... uh, TODAY...should come here and read my reply to this article (and posts on ChristianityToday.com)here:
http://OnlyJesusSaves.com

Street Preach The Way Jesus Did, David Swanson
http://onlyjesussaves.com/blog/archives/917

Hey folks I came across this article and all the remarks.As a missionary- Street Preacher for 33 years to the street people of Detroit/inner city youth minister/ biker rally preacher. (And just about any other crowd we can get at.) I think ya'll are fighting about two ends of the same thing. There is the whole Grace and Truth" thing.(Kind & Brutally honest) And crowds and situations are all different too. The Lord Jesus Christ Comforted the afflicted and afflicted the comforted. Ya' see Grace & Truth! I,m sure that David Swanson is a nice guy, So am I and I'm a street preacher who feeds homeless men and women, is pastor and father figure to inner city teens and kids, BUT I am also a Hell fire and Brimstone Street Preacher too.
I can match the GRACE of the grace folks and can out Hell Fire & Brimstone that crew too when and IF needed. Ezekiel 33:8 " When I say unto the wicked O wicked man thou shalt surely die. IF THOU DOST not SPEAK to WARN the wicked of their way, That wicked man shall die in his iniquity; BUT HIS BLOOD WILL I REQUIRE AT THY HAND."
In our ministry we are very loving and kind but still honest with the down trodden. But can still preach to the Hells Angels in Sturgis or the Outlaws in Daytona. If you try the "Nicey Nice" stuff with those rough necks they'll think exactly what they think about most Christians... (they think we're cowardly sissies, patsies and do gooders.) But IF you stand up and "PLAY THE MAN!" They'll respect you and your message. Our Homeless & Hardcore Street people think we're the nicest people around. (And we are!) See that's GRACE. The Biker Dudes think we're "Bad to the Bone." And we are??? Nah lets call it GUTS! That's preachin' the Truth! Like: "Your gonna split Hell wide open if you don't get saved!" Many "Hell Fire and Brimstone" folks have more compassion than some of you folks think, And SOME don't. And some of you who have "Grace" would let a whole generation "Bust Hell wide open!" And never once open their compassionate traps. (And we too have compassion in our Street & Youth Ministry.) Here's acouple of hints for eveyone...

#1. No one ever gets SAVED until they get LOST. Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the Law was our school master to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith."

#2. Jude vs.22-23 "And SOME having COMPASSION, making a difference:
23. And OTHERS SAVE WITH FEAR, pulling them out of the FIRE; hating even the garments spotted by the flesh."
That about sums it up does n't it? Who is right??? The "GRACE crew or JUDGEMENT-Hell Fire and Brimstone crew??? BOTH ARE!

#3. TRUTH IS ONLY HATE TO THOSE WHO HATE THE TRUTH! So you "Meanies" cheer up and you "Weenies" Man Up! HA! (Sorry bout' that remember I'm one of those terrible Street Preachers.)
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Hi David - While my emotional reaction would not doubt have been the same as yours, I would question it on a certain level. Those street preachers are extremely annoying. BUT the premise behind your account seems to be that we ought to present the gospel in such a way that it makes non-Christians feel good. You were unhappy when it upset people, but you were happy when people went away with a smile. I applaud what the musicians were doing and it is good in and of itself, but the church culture that produced that also has a big flaw, which is that it has overreacted against the "turn and burn" approach and has a difficult time saying anything at all in public. We need to get past these extremes. In our response the to the inappropriate judgmentalism of the street preacher we need to remember that public proclamation is a very important aspect of the biblical model. Contemporary evangelicalism is less and less interested in proclamation; perhaps because in our culture the greatest sin is to make others feel bad because of what we believe.

AMOS 5:10 "They HATE him that rebuketh in the gate,and they ABHOR him that speaketh uprightly."

Isaiah 30:9-10 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children who WILL NOT HEAR the LAW of the LORD:
10. Which say unto the Seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things,speak unto us SMOOTH things, PROPHESY DECIETS:
My the things change the more they stay the same Huh?
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Wow - The "pastor" who wrote this probably didn't like the bullhorn guys becasue he appears to be just as lost as the other unconverted people leaving the music festival. Lets look at how our dear "pastor" condemns himself with his own words:

"I wanted nothing more than to return to our apartment for a long shower and some blessed quiet. Lollapalooza was a blast, a great opportunity to see some new bands and observe Chicago’s diverse youth culture"

[Then according to the Apostle John you are a lover of the fallen things of this world and the love of God is not in you - 1 John 2:5]

"For the past two days, I’d watched these young people pursue beauty and friendship and community. Groups of sunburned 20somethings had made their way from one stage to the next, avoiding mud puddles and speaking with awe in their voices about their favorite musical experiences of the weekend."

[What a great way to paint depraved sinners who are on their way to hell, give me a break "pastor", most of these people are outside of of Christ and Gods wrath abides on them John 3:36]

"Ten minutes of this street theatre was enough and, quenching my desire to punch Bullhorn Man and Bible Man, I continued toward the train. As I often do after encountering this version of Christian witness, I angrily questioned why these men did what they did."

[The reason you are so angry is because you appear to be a compeltely unconverted hireling, or as isaiah the prophet would say, a dumb dog, and they trying to actually serve the true living Christ are a reproach to you - isaiah 56:10]

Beware of the this worldly wolf (I mean holy pastor) true body of Christ, I say that with a broken heart. Please do not bother trying to track me down so that you can "punch me" dear "pastor", rather turn from your idolatry and worldliness to the Christ of the Bible with your whole heart.

-Jim

above post should read 1 John 2:15

A quick interview with a street preacher to divert attention away huh? Come on dear "pastor", why not come an answer for your worldliness and profane deception used in this story? Because you are a minister of satan and hate the light maybe?

Repent pastor... turn from your worldy lusts and idolatry or you will burn in hell and have the greater condemnation. You care more for looking hip in front of men then you do for God. You are the new seeker emergent stlye pharisee...

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